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Project update: Every Feature You Asked For, and What Happened to It.

Project update: Every Feature You Asked For, and What Happened to It.

We've written a lot about copper, silicon and thermal vias. This one is about the other input to the design. 662 of you wrote us paragraphs about what DockFrame should be, and we let them change the product. So here's the whole list: what you asked for, how many of you asked, and what happened to each one. Including the three we turned down.

If you've read the multimeter post, the power supply post, or the BreadBoard Card post, you know the DockFrame pitch: a modular USB-C dock built around the Framework Expansion Card format, hosting standard Framework cards and our own Tool Cards. The sign-up form on hwlab.io/dockframe had one open question on it, no checkboxes, just a text box. This is what came back.

No personal data appears anywhere below. Every number is a count of people, and the quotes are unattributed.

The numbers

+1,400
Sign-ups
662
Wrote us something
22
Distinct things you asked for
13
Of them in the box
2
Decisions you reversed

What you want to do with it

Before the feature requests, the use cases. Every response was tagged with each theme it touched, so these overlap:

Hover any bar for the exact count. 662 written responses, tagged by theme.

The top two bars set the priorities. 260 of you described a dock first and an instrument second. That matters more than it sounds: DockFrame has to work as a plain USB-C dock on the day it arrives, before anyone slots in a Tool Card, because that's the job most people are hiring it for. A lab instrument wearing a dock costume would have failed this audience.

And 203 of you led with the Framework cards you already own:

"I already have a ton of framework expansion cards laying around for my Framework laptop. Having a dock that uses the cards I already own rather than them doing nothing — this is a no-brainer."

— Community member

That's the single most repeated idea in the whole dataset, phrased a hundred different ways, and it's why a proprietary card format was never on the table. Anything we invented would have been better shaped for our own cards and worthless for the drawer of cards you already paid for.

"I've burnt through several cheap docks I bought on Amazon so having a reliable, upgradable and fixable one is gonna be huge."

— Community member

Every request, and what happened to it

This is the whole list, sorted by how many people asked. Use the filters to see only what shipped, only what we punted, or only what we turned down.

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53 Multimeter card Tool Card #1. 60 V and 3.2 A, plus resistance, capacitance and inductance, 5 kV isolation, banana jacks. In the box
46 Display output DisplayPort Alt Mode on the downstream ports, 4K 60 Hz target. An engineering target, not yet a validated measurement. Targeted
34 Power supply card Tool Card #2. Continuously adjustable 0 to 20 V, up to 5 A, set from your browser. Was going to be four fixed rails. In the box
34 Ethernet Framework already sells an Ethernet card and it fits the slots. We don't need to build this one. Framework card
28 Laptop charging over PD Up to 65 W back to the host over the uplink port, from up to 140 W of PD input. In the box
28 3D printable case FreeCAD sources with STEP and STL exports, published when the campaign ends. In the box
19 MCU dev card Shipped as the BreadBoard Card, a socketed carrier for the Seeed Studio XIAO series with breadboard headers. In the box
19 Portability Delivered by the form factor. Every card is 60 x 30 mm and the dock travels in a bag. In the box
17 USB4 or Thunderbolt No, not this generation. Controller availability, cost, certification and validation all rule it out. We said no
16 SSD or storage card Framework sells storage cards that fit the slots. Same answer as Ethernet. Framework card
14 Dual USB-C card Shipped as the Mini Hub Card. Two downstream USB 3.0 ports at 5 Gbps each. In the box
14 Building-brick studs Stud grid on the case top, compatible with popular building brick sets. In the box
14 More slots, stackable The case stacks, and the stud grid is how it stacks. You add capacity by adding docks. In the box
14 KVM switch Not this generation. It's a real product idea and it's a different product. We said no
9 Open source, all of it Hardware under CERN-OHL-S, firmware under MIT, OSHWA certification planned. In the box
9 GPIO and UART breakout Queued as a Tool Card, next design cycle. Not in this campaign. Queued
7 Oscilloscope card In design as a separate project. Has its own repo and its own set of problems. Queued
7 240 W USB PD We landed at 140 W of PD input. A real EPR contract, but not 240 W. An honest miss. We said no
3 Logic analyzer card Queued. Wanted by people who described exactly what they would sniff with it. Queued
2 Function generator card Queued. Queued
2 OBD-II and automotive Queued. The automotive requests came with the most detailed use cases of any group. Queued
1 RF and SWR analyzer Queued. One person asked. We wrote it down anyway. Queued

Tool Card requests and hub feature requests were counted separately in the raw data and merged here, taking the larger count where a request appeared on both lists.

Tool Cards: the part that gets people excited

Green bars shipped in this campaign. Amber is queued. Blue means Framework already sells that card.

The top five card requests are the four cards in the box plus one that Framework already sells. We'd love to claim product vision here. It was a spreadsheet, sorted by count, built top to bottom.

The bars below the fold are the interesting ones for what comes next, and they came from people who knew exactly what they were asking for:

"This with a UART card and/or an RP2040 type card would be very useful for electronics design. A digital DSO type card would be an excellent choice too — being able to sniff I2C, SPI, or analog signals directly on a laptop would be very useful."

— Community member

The two requests that changed a card

Most feedback confirms a decision. Two requests reversed one, and those are worth naming because this is the part people rarely show.

The power supply was going to have fixed rails

Our own published roadmap listed the Power Supply Card as "adjustable DC: 3.3 V / 5 V / 9 V / 12 V." Four buttons, four voltages. Cheaper, simpler, smaller. Then this arrived:

"The power supply is what really intrigues me. I'm using a bench power supply now to test some fans/TEC coolers for a custom phone case. It would be cool to software-define the voltage/amperage instead of hand-tuning with knobs."

— Community member

Plus a long tail of notes from people who needed a voltage that wasn't one of our four. The card that shipped is a continuously adjustable 0 to 20 V, up to 5 A supply on an I2C-programmable buck-boost, set from your browser or a script, with input and output current sensing. Any voltage in the range, not four of them. It cost us board area, a much harder thermal problem, and one of the three re-architectures that card went through. It was the right call and we wouldn't have made it on our own.

The multimeter's isolation went up because you pushed

The early plan treated isolation as a nice-to-have. Enough of you described measuring things attached to mains, or to a car, or to a bench supply capable of hurting a laptop, that it became a hard requirement. The card that shipped has 5 kV of isolation between the USB side and the measurement side, which is a real cost in parts, board area, and layout difficulty on a 60 x 30 mm card.

"I am a teacher at a Public High School. I teach IT along with electronics, 3D printing, circuitry, soldering, programming. The Multimeter and Power Supply for small circuitry projects — I am excited for this!"

— Community member

Feature requests for the hub itself

The dock, rather than the cards. Grey bars are the three requests we turned down.

Display output was the number one hub request and it's also the hardest thing on the list. We said last year that DisplayPort Alt Mode was "genuinely hard," and that was accurate. The hub carries DP Alt Mode on the downstream multifunction ports with a 4K 60 Hz target, alongside USB 3.2 at up to 10 Gbps. Target is doing real work in that sentence. It's a design goal, not a number we've measured on a bench, and the PoC will tell us where it actually lands.

Ethernet and storage got the same answer, and it's the best answer this architecture can give: you don't need us to make that card. Framework already sells both, they fit the slots, and 34 people asking us for Ethernet is 34 people we can point at a card that exists today. That's the entire argument for using someone else's open form factor instead of inventing one.

The three requests we turned down, and why

USB4 and Thunderbolt, 17 asked. We researched it properly and it's out of reach for this generation on controller availability, cost, certification, and the sheer amount of validation a USB4 host path needs. Saying "we're looking into it" would be more comfortable and less true. The hub is USB 3.2, up to 10 Gbps per downstream port. If that's the deal-breaker for your setup, we would rather you know now than at fulfillment.

240 W EPR, 7 asked, several of them Framework 16 owners with a discrete GPU. We chased 240 W through a controller evaluation and landed at 140 W of PD input, which is a real EPR contract and enough for most laptops, but it's not 240 W, and a high-draw machine with a discrete GPU will charge more slowly than it does from its own brick. That's a genuine miss against a genuine request.

"I have the new Framework 16 with the Nvidia dGPU, so I've been looking for a dock that supports the 240W the laptop needs. For me, I would need Ethernet, USB-C, USB-A, and HDMI."

— Community member

KVM switching, 14 asked. Not this generation. It's a real product idea and it's a different product.

What you said it should cost

Fifty-four people volunteered a price without being asked, which almost never happens and was more useful than a survey would have been:

Prices people named themselves, unprompted, in the freeform box.

Straight answer: we're more expensive than that, and by a lot in places. Single cards start at $169, the Framework User Kit (Hub + dual USB-C card) is $269, and the Full Kit with the hub and all four cards is $399.

Here's where that money goes, with the numbers we work from.

We're ordering 500 of something. Not 500,000.

This is most of the answer. Volume is the single biggest lever on the price of any electronic thing, and we have almost none of it.

Our own quotes show the per-unit manufacturing cost falling roughly 12 % every time the batch size doubles. Run that curve out from 500 units to the tens of thousands a consumer dock is built in, and the same bill of materials, the same board, the same enclosure costs less than half of what we pay. Nothing about the design changes. Only the quantity on the purchase order.

Passives and connectors are the obvious version of this. The less obvious version is everything around them: a factory schedules a 500-piece run between two big jobs, so you pay for the setup, the stencils, the line time, and the operator's attention as if you were a rounding error, because you are. Injection molding is worse. A mold costs the same whether you shoot 500 parts or 500,000.

The one-time bills land on 500 units, not 50,000

CE and UKCA certification with the EMC testing behind it's a five-figure invoice that arrives once, before we can legally ship anything into Europe or the UK. Spread across a 500-unit first run, that alone is about $24 on every unit. At 10,000 units it would be a dollar and change. Same paperwork, same lab, same test chamber.

The injection mold for the case is the other bill of this kind. Tooling has to be cut and paid for before a single part exists, and it costs the same whether we shoot 500 parts or 500,000. It's one of the things this campaign funds. The prototypes on our bench came out of our own pockets.

The price covers the versions that didn't work, too

Here's the part that never shows up on a spec sheet.

The Power Supply Card went through three significant re-architectures before the schematic settled. Not tweaks. It started as a fork of the multimeter card, lost everything that wasn't a power supply, then grew a PD sink, a wide-input buck, and a programmable buck-boost. The first pre-fab review flagged six blocking issues. One of them was that the buck-boost's thermal pad had zero thermal vias, which is the kind of mistake that turns into a hot, unreliable card and is unrecoverable once boards are back from fab. Fixing it took three vias on the pad and about 107 more stitched across the stage.

The BreadBoard Card is on its fifth schematic revision, and it's the simple card. The multimeter runs to twelve hierarchical sheets because isolated measurement doesn't fit on one page. Every one of those spins means new boards, a new stencil, another few hundred dollars of parts, and two to three weeks of waiting to find out whether the fix worked.

Nobody pays for the revisions that didn't work. The price of the version that does has to cover them.

Two people, most of a year

There are two of us. Not a hardware team with a layout department and a test engineer. The schematics, the routing, the DRC fights, the firmware, the browser apps, the enclosure CAD, the documentation, the bring-up, and the debugging are all the same two people.

That time isn't in the price at anything like a market rate. Billed the way a consultancy would bill it, these kits would cost a good deal more.

Tariffs move under our feet

The boards are made and assembled in China. As of right now, goods coming from China into the US carry a 50 % tariff, and that number has changed more than once while we've been designing this thing.

A crowdfunding price is fixed on day one and can't be changed halfway through, even though the tariff can. So the price has to carry a buffer for a number we don't control and can't predict. If tariffs drop before we ship, we don't get to hand the difference back mid-campaign. It goes where the rest of the margin goes: into the next revision.

A quarter of what you pay never reaches the workbench

Between payment processing, the platform's crowdfunding fee, and a flat per-item fee, close to a quarter of the price is gone before we buy a single component. Depending on how we ship, it's more than that.

We chose that deliberately. It buys fulfillment out of a real warehouse, support staff who answer email when something goes wrong, and free worldwide shipping with no customs bill at your door. Two people running all of that from a spare room is how small hardware projects turn into six months of apologies.

What we did about it

The arithmetic is what it is, but the lineup is shaped around that chart.

The $269 entry kit exists because of the cluster in the under-$100 columns: hub plus Mini Hub Card, no instruments, for the people who described a dock and nothing else. Every card is sold on its own, so nobody has to buy an oscilloscope's worth of hardware to get the one card they wrote in about. Shipping is free worldwide and included, rather than a surprise at checkout. There are no accessory upsells, no subscription, no app store, and no cloud account. And everything is open source when the campaign ends, so the thing you buy stays useful, and fixable, after we move on to the next board.

One more thing, about the price guesses themselves

Most of those fifty-four numbers were written when DockFrame was a dock with a slot in it, before the Tool Cards existed as anything more than a sketch on the blog. A cheap dock and a card carrying 5 kV of isolation, a calibrated analog front end, or a programmable buck-boost aren't the same object.

The guesses were still useful. They are the reason there's a kit under $300 at all.

Where things stand

Done and on the bench

  • Multimeter Card, Power Supply Card, BreadBoard Card, Mini Hub Card: designed, boards back, in bring-up
  • DockFrame Hub: five USB-C ports, 140 W PD input, DP Alt Mode targeted on the downstream ports
  • Injection-molded case with a stud grid on top, and it stacks

Before launch

  • CE and UKCA declarations filed, printed safety information in every box
  • Firm manufacturing quote for the first run: 500 units across the seven products
  • Final PoC bring-up on the last board

After the campaign

  • All hardware published under CERN-OHL-S, firmware under MIT, FreeCAD case sources with STEP and STL
  • The queue, ranked by your counts: GPIO and UART breakout, oscilloscope, logic analyzer, function generator, automotive, RF

One thing we need from you

A logistics note, because it decides whether you hear about launch day at all.

Crowd Supply runs the campaign, and their subscriber list is what sends the launch notification. Ours does not. We could take the addresses on our list and push them into the signup form on the campaign page, and every one of you would get that email. We aren't going to. You gave your address to us, not to a third party, and a project whose whole argument is that you should own your hardware doesn't get to be casual about your inbox. Same reason the Tool Card apps run in your browser and never call home.

So there's one click we can't do for you.

Get the launch notification

Open the campaign page and hit Subscribe. That's the list that matters.

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And thank you, properly. 662 written responses is an absurd amount of free engineering input for a project that was a landing page and some renders at the time. The four cards in the box are in the box, in that order, because that's the order you ranked them. The power supply is continuously adjustable because one of you pointed out that knobs were the wrong interface. Keep doing that. We do read all of it.

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